Here on Reddit, you cannot silence the disputes to your propaganda and misinformation. It is not Rednote

It is amazing there are so many people here in this forum trying hard to spread biased misinformation and CCP propaganda, defending the CCP censorship.

A typical such post is
Before you Ask, No it's not Chinese Propaganda by u/shashalalababa

This post appears to explain why the images of China presented on Rednote look so good. It provides a list of related factors which can be part of the causes. But it does not mention the dominant factor - the heavy censorship, which hides all the negative side of the realities. The Chinese government and the controlling authorities enforce strong bias to present information which look good, and blocks the information looking negative, and even use police to threaten people for telling negative side of the reality. Of course, you will see a rosy illusion there.

I pointed out that, and then got blocked by the OP of that post. Typical like in China. There is only one-side propaganda, and the voices from the other side are not allowed.

But here Reddit is in this free world. It is outside of the China Great-Firewall. People are free to lie, and believe the lies. People are also free to expose the lies, to present the other side of the information. I will try my best to dispute the the distortions, to get things straight.

I still receive notifications on the new replies to me under that post. Being blocked, I cannot respond there.

So, I will just "at" people and respond to them here. I will also continue to make more comments here in regards to that post.

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u/KeithFromAccounting

This is ignoring the fact that the Western world is suffering through significant censorship on our online platforms, too. Twitter and now Meta have both been caught preventing left-of-centre content and amplifying far right content. To say that only Rednote is biased when the entirety of corporate America is in bed with MAGA and the modern reactionary right is…dishonest, to say the least

No. It is at totally different level. Do Twitter and Meta build a Great-Firewall to block your web traffic to other sites, other countries? Do they use police to send you to jail or mental hospital to silence your voice? If you use "suffering through significant censorship" to describe the situation in the US, what are your fair evaluation on the situation on Rednote and in China? just "biased"?

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u/AxoMoon

if their basic needs are all being met they might not have to spend as much time worrying about politics

For Americans are the basic needs met? Do Americans worry about politics? On Rednote there are lot of discussions to compare the living costs on both sides. But they appear to be that the Americans live in hell and Chinese live in paradise. It is because the heavy censorship at work. Chinese are not allowed to show the negative information there. In reality, so many Chinese are trying to illegally come into US, whereas none of Americans is interested into immigrate to China. Chinese people cannot vote. The actions are their vote.

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u/Knowledge_ls_Power_

That’s my thought process, like I was on XHS and loving it and then went back to IG and it’s just so much politics, that’s when I realized that American’s are either slaving away at work or thinking about politics. That doesn’t feel free at all, I’d rather let the politicians worry about the politics and I just live my life.

This is actually what the big-brother wants to the people to believe. The government controls and takes care of everything. You just live your life. If you truly want to choose that, come to live in China. LOL.

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While the OP of that host welcomed foreigner to visit China and provide the tourist information, I'd like to also point out that foreigners are closely watched by the police. Every foreigners are required to to register at local police station for their everyday residence. If you change a place for the night, you must register with the local police. The hotels do this for you mostly. But the law is there requiring you to do that if the hotel does not. That is a police state after all.

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Famous_Maintenance_5over 1 year ago6

Come on man:

> No. It is at totally different level. Do Twitter and Meta build a Great-Firewall to block your web traffic to other sites, other countries? Do they use police to send you to jail or mental hospital to silence your voice? If you use "suffering through significant censorship" to describe the situation in the US, what are your fair evaluation on the situation on Rednote and in China? just "biased"?

US doesn't need to, because they literally have the power to taken down anything they don't like around the world. Look at

- Kim dotcom
- Snowden
- Assange

All shutdown, hunted, extradited, made examples of. That's the high profile ones we know of. Cia black sites are global. They can literally extradite non-American citizens to America.

> For Americans are the basic needs met? Do Americans worry about politics? On Rednote there are lot of discussions to compare the living costs on both sides. But they appear to be that the Americans live in hell and Chinese live in paradise. It is because the heavy censorship at work. Chinese are not allowed to show the negative information there. In reality, so many Chinese are trying to illegally come into US, whereas none of Americans is interested into immigrate to China. Chinese people cannot vote. The actions are their vote.

Chinese people can vote. But they vote for their local village chief, who gets promoted based on competence and approval ratings. In US, people vote, but the vote between a guy with dementia and guy we wish had dementia. In China, the local governments are extra responsive to citizen needs because they need high approval ratings to get promoted. This is a much *better* form of democracy because it encourages politicians to be productive rather than attack the party. And no, many American needs are not met. We have lots of homeless, and our healthcare causes bankruptcy, which destroys our social credit score.

> This is actually what the big-brother wants to the people to believe. The government controls and takes care of everything. You just live your life. If you truly want to choose that, come to live in China. LOL.

You're fed too much propaganda, my friend. Government officials fear the public. That's why when you report a pothole, they fix it in 48 hours and send you a call asking if you are satisfied. Would a government that is 'big brother' really do that? Hell no!

The Chinese philosophy is that democracy has its place, in rating the performance of governors. it is a better democracy than just for 1 or 2 dudes you hate. Remember the word 'Democracy' from the Greeks does not mean 'Vote for Leader every 4 years out of 2 options'. It means

"Power to the People"

You tell me if the regular people in America have any power - when politicians couldn't care less what you think as campaign funds and buying X wins the game. A democracy bases on whether a government can make the lives of their people better - as judged by the people - seems to a far better way to give people power.

Imagine if when Tim Cotten pulled that dumb shit with Tiktok, people could pull his approval rating below 50% and he'd get demoted - wouldn't that be a sight! Instead US politicians cost on approval rates of 20-30% are are somehow 'doing their job'

InevitableError9517over 1 year ago2

Agree

Chrissybai38over 1 year ago2

That’s an absolute lie, no foreigner has to register at any police station in China. Do you know how many foreign companies are in China from McDonald to Versace? There are over one million foreign workers mainly French and American. I’m starting to think this group is an anti Red Note community. Bit fraudulent.

user6593aover 1 year ago2

Agree 💯.

cochorolover 1 year ago2

And the award for the murica's propaganda of the morning is for @zznc280, congrats!!! 

Kbdank71over 1 year ago1

Meh. It's a nice place to hang out. No trolls, I can learn the language and culture.

Their app, their rules.

UniqueBet4964over 1 year ago1

井底之蛙。

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