Can you benefit from damage gain on unscalable damage?

If I have a source of unscalable physical damage, can I benefit from modifiers such as gain % of damage as fire damage? Or is the unscalable damage completely independent of all damage calculations until the end?

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SlayerII5 months ago2

No , its unscalable.
Unscalable usually was already derived from other sources that had been scaled, so if it would work, it would work twice, causing double-diping/quadratic scaling, which is something the developers try to avoid completely.

CantripN5 months ago1

You already scaled it once, that's WHY it's unscalable, so you don't benefit twice from the same mod.

The base damage of all those effects is based on some hit or other number that got scaled by ALL those things before.

Duckthehobo5 months ago1

Looks like you got an answer, but make sure you don’t confuse unscalable with generic.

Unscalable damage will explicitly state it’s unscalable (acidic concoction), whereas generic damage will say “deals x damage” (plague bearer)

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