Someone please Give me the secret sauces! How not to run out of mana as a non spellcaster and how to be tanky!?I

Im playing a ranger pathfinder and wanted to implement cast on ailment to my arsenal since Im playing a chaos build that can reliably shock and freeze. I theory crafted it and it’s going well so far. By adding chaos curses and spells (and maybe hexblast) to cast on ailment, I figured it would help my clear and exponentially increase my dps. Issue is, i run out of mana every time cast on ailment procs.

Now Im aware that there is a multitude of mana nodes on the passive tree, but if I invest there, my dps drops massively causing me to no longer freeze reliably, effectively bricking my build.

Also, how do you guys get tanky besides evasion and energy shield? Armor is a no no on my side of the tree

TLDR: Is there a secret sauce to get enough mana to implement cast on ailment to my build without having to sacrifice DPS?

Level 90 Pathfinder - Path of Exile 2 - poe.ninja (not sure why its showing 49k but my actual dps is 87k)

Comments

Osteinum•5 months ago•3

It would help if you provide your poe.ninja so we can look at your build. You can't expect to not have mana issues, getting a good mana situation is the most tricky of it all. You have to think that no mana means no damage, so some sacrifice of raw dps for better mana can be beneficial. There are 2 nodes in reach that gives 20% and 15% increased mana efficiency. Those nodes are important. You can anoint on of them on amulet too.

You can see my passive tree here: https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/Sham-8172/character/ShamSorcc

I am by no means an expert, but I have made cast on crit work fairly nice, and mana isn't a big issue. It is an issue, but minor to medium

Jason_C_Travers_PhD•5 months ago•1

I’m not sure whether it can work with pathfinder, but I think a lot of coc builds use lifetap support gem in elemental ailment and take eldritch battery with mind over matter. Mana remnants spirit gem also, I believe.

DeelonOSRS•5 months ago•1

Mana regen/ arcane surge/ +mana on rings. I still run out but its sustainable but im playing disciple so i have more access to that stuff on the tree. Oh yeah and running mana remnants its huge

Subject_King2539•5 months ago•1

Check my build: https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/MidnightSun-0773/Shunryuken?i=8&search=skills%3DLightning%2BArrow%26sort%3Ddps

With the unique gloves, crit and mana remnants I can spam any spell from coc with ease and sustain constant attack with a lv 39 lightning arrow.

It’s actually crazy how much meta energy one bow shot creates.

Plus I chose a few nodes and a rune with taking damage from mana first , which helped increase my max hit.

Eponick•5 months ago•1

Not sure what the most efficient thing to do is for mana, but a bit of Mana on kill (20-30) on a ring works great for mana sustain when clearing. Clarity 2 on a Herald and a mana leech support gem works fine in a boss fight. If it's taking you a while to kill for some reason then mana pot covers the rest.

agent8261•5 months ago•1

My main this league is Pathfinder: https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/darrenrob82-3531/character/Buevax

I no longer worry about mana with lavianga's spirits and a few mana efficiency nodes from travelers wisdom.

On a different note: Personally I think if you take Traveler's Wisdom, you have to equip Astramentis. I feel like it's not even optional.

Also quality or rings can help with resistance. That could free up slots for other things.

Sufficient_Pin9278•5 months ago•1

I solved mana regen on a character once by jus putting on a mana leech rune on a weapon socket. It makes a big difference. Try it out. If it doesn't work it's just a rune socket, you can swap it back out for almost no cost.

aarygablettjr•5 months ago•1

The easiest stop gap would be slotting Mana Remnants on your build. Find more spirit on your amulet and chest piece, change a ring to the one that gives you +1 skill slots and off you go.

Low-Blackberry-9065•5 months ago•1

For mana

on my iceshot pathfinder I use the spirit skill mana remnants and leech mark for bosses
on my poison pathfinder I only use leech mark for bosses

Zestyclose_Corgi6968•5 months ago•1

If you're dealing lots of phys damage you could consider a single line of mana leech on rings or gloves. Weapon is possible too but I'd wager you want that stat line to be used for damage. If you're dealing elemental hit damage same as above but slot Oisins Oath into the skill as a support and it can leech crazy amounts of mana based off elemental hits.

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