So let me get this straight..

I've been watching poe.ninja, and reddit here and a few other things.. so basically every sorc/witch end game build consists of 2 or 3 same items. double corrupted vertex with +4, temporalis/covenant/atziri's splendour, rathpith, headhunter belt and olroth's flask.

judging by that, there's really only 1 build that everyone plays that requires those uniques (based on the ascendancy) and that's it... (were talking CoC comet ofc).

is this a problem of balance or the lack of better / different uniques to allow more builds to 'shine'?

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BlueTemplar855 months ago5

It could also be fads enabled by easy communication. (Making your own build is harder than copying someone else's.)  

And poe ninja only shows the characters of people that made their accounts public, who might or might not be a minority among the few that reached endgame.

Infinite-Ad54645 months ago2

CoC os very confy, scales nicely, and due to temple dumping millions of vertexes in the game, it became kinda cheap early on.

And yes, other builds need a buff.

Monsieur_Walrus5 months ago2

It is the most optimal and the strongest build for the temple. Even if there were many more viable and strong enough builds, people are going to funnel to the most meta one. We need more content that requires different type of builds to see variety. I don't think it is a balance issue. There is just no reason to build something else.

supermonkey12355 months ago2

https://preview.redd.it/7d20zta8qfkg1.png?width=2336&format=png&auto=webp&s=0783bb0b70260ba4c8e6072cecdf073d5180646d

Nothing else in this game does like 50k damage at base lol (27k cold and 27k fire). Cast on is generally really easy to build around, and CoC is literally a braindead win more button (doing more damage spawns more spells). Comet also has one of the best quality buffs, being a straight 10% damage increase (chance to repeat).

Bloodmage makes the CoC loop even better because as long as 10% of your spell damage is more than the cost of comet (1k), which is insanely easy, you get comet for literally free thanks to leech and converting mana costs to life.

Bloodmage also benefits disproportionately benefits from rathpith thanks to crimson power being a free 1k extra life.

I would cut GGG some slack bc this is kind of THE bloodmage league with atziri literally being one and a lot of the new stuff shilling to bloodmage specifically.

nilsh19855 months ago1

CoC/Comet will be hit by a comet next league. A comet with Jonathan's face on it.

o7

CaptainAgnarr5 months ago1

I'd say the build balance this league is the best it's been so far actually, it's just this late in the league that people who are still playing tend to gravitate towards some of the more objectively better ones.

You can search for people who have CI, then you'll at least filter out a few of those copy pasta unique builds. Or excludes uniques specifically in your search. You can do all content without a +4 vertex lol

BlackDeathBE5 months ago1

Does anyone know of any builds that come even remotely close, for clearing a fully buffed temple?

andriantcarl5 months ago1

I agree that they need to buff other class to perform better, not to just nerf the shit out of this build next patch.

It just that using coc comet and elemental weaknes is just felt that good. Hands down the best build i have played.

saxovtsmike5 months ago1

my cheap grenade boi uses headhunter and a cheap +3 Vertex.

As Levels are key I, see no point on not running a Vertex in any build, except you have to have a different headpeiece to enable your build, but the high end price jump for the final gemlevel is not needed from everybody, so i understand everyone running a +3 vertex

There was a meta build in every poe1 and 2 leage the was "broken" or dead easy to play, so they got the high percentage values in poeninja

And besides the I play the build of the patch players, there are the stuborn ones, that play the same every leage because it suits them

taleofbor5 months ago1

I played 3 builds before switching my Witch and Oracle to Spark + CoC.

The best thing about it: you don't need to aim, just walk in the room and cast = everything dies. Very comfy and efficient.