AOC Elemental Ailment Stacking (with Chaos Damage) - Feedback Welcome

-Just want to show some love to AOC as still a less used Ascendancy

-Cool power fantasy of using 3x breach lord supports as AOC since Chayula is the "rogue" breachlord per lore

- Exploration of single DPS damage possible while not investing into crit

- Some interesting findings on sequence of damage conversion (conversion does not normalize in all cases, but rather sequentially)/gain damage as extra

- Any other feedback on how to take advantage of ailment stacking for further damage scaling please let me know (currently trying to take advantage of Yoke of Suffering but it's a work in progress)~

Cheers!

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GR8B0-T4 months ago2

I noticed some Path of Exile acronyms in this post:

  • AoC - Acolyte of Chayula, a Monk Ascendancy class (Wiki)
  • DPS - Damage per Second

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coffealake4 months ago1

I played a similar build last season and what I noticed is that original sin is not nessasary. With all the unique support gems and chaos damage, all you have to do is scale attack damage to proc the elemental ailments.

It's also very nice to have chain herald of ice with chaos armour break and armour explosion to clear the screen. Yoke is super strong in boss fight since you are benefit from at least 4 elemental ailments.

DaryltheRigger4 months ago1

I appreciate the enthusiasm for Chayula. I am a Chayula connoisseur with about 2.4k hours playing Chayula since release. All but my first season build were able to trivialize End Game content (I never played PoE1 and my level of ARPG experience was Torchlight II before this).

I think Chayula shines in its ability to leech from massive chaos damage pool, and its ability to generate insane chaos damage WITHOUT original sin. The meta skills for Qstaff this season are chaining with a herald and breaking armour, and whirling assault. Bossing is typically Flicker, but Falling Thunder also gets used.

The only ability there that really benefits from Original Sin effectively is Falling Thunder. Chayula can stack so much chaos as extra damage right now that Original Sin is entirely unnecessary, and, imho, actually gimps defense or offense.

I’m running Chayula using MoM/EB and abusing remnants. Mana Remnants is extremely powerful ability for this, and utilizing the meta “mana is life, life is mana,” Chayula really hits it out of the park.

Below is my PoB for my iteration of Chayula. He will kill any pinnacle in mere seconds and breeze thru a juiced temple. The temple speed will be lacking compared to a CoC curse build, but that’s the fault of the developers for overlooking and insanely stupid and broken interaction (so much for vision).

One thing I will mention is that if you’re investing into Chaos damage and overlooking Wither you are not doing chaos damage right. Wither is a damage multiplier for chaos damage that also stacks with Shock. Wither magnitude on gloves and tree alone will put multiplier at 1.8x it’s absolutely bananas how good it is.

https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/blgmike-5184/character/bltchfistV

Useful-Bobcat-1784 months ago1

I have a very similar build but I play it as Chrono instead of Chonk, so I sacrifice the chaos leech for the Chrono-specific defensive options like freezing time n' stuff, and I guess I also lack the increased effectiveness of Flames of Chayula. I think Chonk is objectively better, but I love Chrono, so that's that. I use Gathering Storm, haven't tried Snipe.

I don't use Resonance/Frenzy charges for Power Charge generation; I feel like Mantra of Destruction is perfectly fine for that, so this allows me to take a From Nothing - Resonance jewel which I feel is very efficient because it lets you take Spaghettification and Event Horizon (and some nice crit nodes, if you use crit) with very little passive point investment.

I've also experimented with an Original Sin Oracle build, because Oracle has access to some crazy chaos damage notables. A talisman with pure elemental damage can do some crazy chaos damage with the wolf and wyvern skills. Flame Breath can also instant max wither via Withering Touch. If you build around Wither Magnitude with Flame Breath you can instant -80% chaos resistance debuff a boss even without factoring in despair, all on the very same skill you use to kill the boss, which is crazy. But I got kinda tired of Oracle builds and like the off-meta stuff.

Cool content though, I'll subscribe!

Edit: To get even more chaos damage I've also experimented with Unholy Might via Kirgal's Leash, but you'd have to spare the spirit for a minion with Command. (Skeletal Sniper is the cheapest option) Having a minion with Brutus's Brain can also tank projectiles for you which gives you some defensive benefit.

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