Sticking pins in dolls came from ENGLAND 🤯

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winterbird•4 months ago•1524

Sticking pins similar in size and shape to knitting needles into real humans was done in Europe, to find witches. It was supposedly a way to find "the devil's mark".

An interesting fact was that the stabs would be concentrated in the breasts and genitals areas. They would be all over the body, but the most per body part in those areas. The witch hunters were really just sadists of the non-consent variety, hiding under a holy cloak.

RedditTrashTho•4 months ago•577

There any source of this?  My short Googling only brings up this video validating the statement

groone•4 months ago•227

His line of thinking comes from the Kongo where poppets were called Nkondi. They were used fir spiritual healing. The idea of them being used as a form of medical record keeping is speculative or anecdotal to explain a process.

Heavy-Macaron2004•4 months ago•218

This smells like... well not necessarily like bullshit, but it definitely smells like it needs a source other than TinkTonk. Why are we believing everything we see in 30 second videos on the internet lmao?

Y0___0Y•4 months ago•172

My conservative brother still talks about all the incredible stuff he learned in the african american studies course he took in college. Those classes were banned in Florida public schools years ago.

Slight_Ad_5074•4 months ago•42

Reading through the comments here, certainly, the lack of consistent written sources does make the claims of this as the strict reason for practice dubious not to mention the evident bias of the priest here. However, taking the information given here, it would make sense logically as the use for such things, not just in communities where literacy was illegal, but in the Medieval English communities that used poppets where literacy was uncommon. We lack strong sources on the exact cause of practice for many of these majority illiterate communities because... there wasn't much writing! I think the cleanest answer, as is the case with most oral tradition, is that poppets and dolls were used for all three in different cases and people. It was likely that there was a faith based component in that the act of placing and removing the needle was representative of the belief of the infliction and alleviation of the malady, and in addition there was the practical recordkeeping component. It's important to not forget that in these societies religious and secular practices were often intertwined, rather than being distinct and separate as we understand them today.

Nocardiohere•4 months ago•26

I’d love to do more research and find evidence that supports this claim because it would be really cool to share with people who like me, believe the Hollywood version of voodoo dolls 

Sad_Palpitation6844•4 months ago•20

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gogogumdrops•4 months ago•19

i went on this persons tour in new orleans. They were very nice but it did feel like a bunch of hearsay and questionable information.

notmyrealaccountlad•4 months ago•17

This is one of those things that I feel is probably bullshit, but I don’t care enough to verify its authenticity.