The anti-India hate is artificial

I can't believe not enough people realize it, but geopolitically China and India are not on good terms and while Sinophobia is growing in India, anti-Indian sentiment is at an all-time high in China. Tiktok, as a Chinese app, has always artificially boosted videos that promote a China-approved perspective on several issues. There's no other way to explain how Americans of all people would end up with a non-antiintellectual political take all of a sudden now Tiktok is here. It's not outright propaganda since the people making the videos weren't contacted or paid by Chinese authorities to make these videos and for the most part I agree with the takes, but it doesn't make them any less astroturfed nor is it a coincidence for it to end up on your FYP either. Since last year or so, Tiktok has used its algorithm to show a lot of disgusting street food videos from India and the comments have been straight up racist. These videos have now normalized a whole new form of blatant racism where people are comfortably saying a lot of disgusting things to Indian content creators.

Disgusting street food is not unique to India. In the Philippines, the poorest people in the country are known to cook and sell literal leftover trash known as pagpag. However, China does seem to promote friendly relations with the Philippines despite the tense situation between the two nations over territorial disputes over a few islands (China however promotes the view that the Philippines is not the villain here, but that it is being used as an instrument of US ambitions), so most Tiktok videos about pagpag is overwhelmingly positive and sympathetic (with most liked comments being along the lines of "poverty is terrible" rather than "cleanest Filipino food" etc). Plenty of other countries in Southern Africa has street food vendors selling food in equally unsanitary ways as we see with the Indian street food videos, but the algorithm doesn't promote them. I'm convinced every anti-India comment and video is astroturfed to make the rest of the world support China/Pakistan against India in future conflicts. If anyone remembers using the internet back in the 2000s, the US did the same thing with the extreme hatred toward Muslims (not just by racists and conservatives, but bipartisan) so people would support US wars in the middle east. Be aware of it and don't let it fool you.

It's not just street food. It's any tiktok where "India" is mentioned. When comparing to Instagram (a US app that doesn't share the same agenda against India), you'll notice those comments much less and it's overall a more nuanced take. I'm not Indian or Chinese, but thought this was worth pointing out.

Comments

gogo_sweetieabout 1 year ago1

omg this makes so much sense! i was wondering why this was happening. it was so overwhelming just one racist street food video after another. now explain the antiblackness from Indian Tiktok. whats driving that…

i have noticed TT push a lot of harmful propaganda thats why i had to leave (i got perma banned)

Connect-Idea-1944about 1 year ago1

Most extreme hate towards specific groups on social media are most of the time fueled by governments, private agencies, big corps or whoever has enough money to fund that. That's why i don't take hateful waves seriously, because i know that there is a whole operation fueled by some people behind.

Since i am french, i can take France as exemple, the anti-french wave started when France refused to support USA in the Iraq war, since then they've been spreading anti-french contents in the media. It's all political.

Pure-Historian-7708about 1 year ago1

Eh Indian hate has been cooking online for years now, it goes back to the memes of creepy Indian men in their 30’s and 40’s randomly texting girls on Facebook messenger, the food culture videos were a thing on R9K and 4Chan and other image boards for well over a decade, and there are random Hindu Nationalist Pockets of Right Winger Indians who make ridiculous historical revisionist claims about the Aryan race, Ancient Indian civilization and Hindu cosmology being the bedrock of Western Culture, and other claims that got them made fun of by the Online Right for years. All of this combined just made a melting pot that boiled over onto TikTok and Instagram reels, which will probably fade from the public conscience soon enough.

Famous-Equivalent-89about 1 year ago1

I think the hate for India comes from watching documentaries on India and seeing how they have rivers filled with literal garbage. 

IsThisASnakeInMyBootabout 1 year ago1

You have no idea how many americans I've heard over the past 4 years of being on discord straight up votekick or laugh at people when they speak with an indian accent. Last week this dude said "I'm not racist, except towards indians"

RazielOfBoletariaabout 1 year ago1

Tinfoil hat conspiracy. People have been making fun of India online way before TikTok even existed. It all started in the FB days with the "show bobs and vagene" type memes/screenshots, then the Youtube videos of dudes messing with Indian scam call centers started popping up, then the documentaries showing people bathing and drinking water from rivers with dead carcasses and trash floating in it, and more recently, the TikTok street food videos.

Also, the hate cannot be artificial, because India really is like that. Indian men really are rapey and say disgusting things to women, they really do have scam call centers where they try to scam old and vulnerable people and steal their money with 0 remorse or empathy, they really do bathe in dirty waters with trash and dead bodies in in, and there was even an Indian politician who drank water from a "holy river" and needed to be hospitalized afterwards. And the street food videos of dudes preparing food on the floor, with rats crawling on top of it, the amputee dude who uses his armpit to flatten patties, the old dude stirring the pot with his forearm, and many other, are also 100% real and unhygienic. So, it's not TikTok that makes people "hate" India, it's India itself.

Jayston1994about 1 year ago1

This is definitely not true. Come to Canada. I'm pretty sure TikTok didn't cause that.

Jealous_Shape_5771about 1 year ago1

Reminds me of that newgrounds game. "We become what we behold." It's demonstrates in super simple terms how media can slowly direct people's mindsets to hate certain things until it finally comes to a head and SHTF. Of course, it doesn't happen as quickly as in the game, and with some more subtlety, but I think that's why we seem to be experiencing more of this shared hatred in the world.

Media presents a problem (manufactured or real, doesn't matter)

Repeats the same talking points.

Cherry picks videos to "prove" their talking points are true.

Rinse and repeat until they groom their audience into the mindset they want. To hate whoever it is they need us to hate at any given time.

Combine this with people being on social media and chronically online, and it's just steady, spooned propaganda.

RADTorontoabout 1 year ago1

I don’t have TikTok but this post just popped up in my feed so I’ll give my take,

Where I’m from we are experiencing a massive influx of immigration from a very specific region in India and it’s become apparent in everyday society to the point where many people are angry and upset as it’s starting a bit of a culture clash. So while I am not disagreeing with your post (actually it was a very interesting read!) I do think there are other factors at play, albeit I think yours is very very relevant

ZucchiniMid6996about 1 year ago1

Indian hate comes from being surrounded by them or watching documentaries about them. Oh and street food. And how they openly stares and oogle women vloggers. Like, the girl standing there reviewing food and 5 indian men stood so close to her while staring intently without shame