Looking to understand recoup a bit more intuitively.

So I understand how recoup works, but for buildcrafting purposes I was hoping someone could help break down the interactions between recoup, armor, and regeneration.

Essentially: If we ignore the fact that life recoup is an ongoing over time effect and just focus on the net resource impact *after* recoup has completed, does that mean that recoup is essentially just another, lower quality/more situational flat % damage resistance?

Additionally, does recoup count damage after armor damage reduction? (This is how I believe it works, but I'm unsure.) This would make sense as it is the damage you are 'taking', and would result in much lower overall values, balance-wise.

TL;DR, Ignoring spiky damage, can recoup be viewed as a lower tier % damage reduction for the purposes of on-paper buildcrafting resource calculations.

Comments

keener915 months ago1

Dreamcore provided a good guide on Recoup

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/guides/recoup

Recoup by itself is just recovery of resource over time. The damage reduction comes from the "Damage prevented is recouped by x" which is indeed powerful.

ammenz5 months ago1

I wouldn't consider it equal to mitigation but more akin to regen. You take damage (after all mitigations occurred), that damage is then recouped over the next 8 seconds. If you are a Chronomancer (highly recommended) you get that down to 4 seconds and you can reduce by a further 25% with a node in the tree (highly recommended).

Self-damage contribute to recoup, creating interesting interactions with items life Fireflower or Scold's Bridle. Another interesting interaction is Sacrifice of Flesh from Undying Hate jewel: can become a 20% mitigation with enough investments into recoup.

dopamin7785 months ago1

Maybe I am wrong but: Recoup occurs BEFORE any mitigation. Thats why its so strong—> 20% recoup , 1000dmg Hit recoups 200life, after resistance its 250dmg taken and 200 recoup. And thats scalable with regain effects.

I was at a point last league where I just could not die except 1 shots mostly from Pinnacle (ritual boss killed me 2x with his 1 autoattack?!)

If you wanna Go hard on recoup, use the unique Amulett defiance of destiny