In 0.5, The Temple needs to just fully destabilize every 10 or so runs

Obviously adjust rewards and all that to make it worth running but it's really close to being a great mechanic. However there's no need or reason that one should devote so much time and effort in to "maintaining" a temple. It should operate more like the roguelike they clearly intended it to be. Let us get lucky and build a OP temple and see loot we can get before it eventually all collapses, and in the same vein some runs will naturally end up being total duds, a simple concept every good roguelike follows.

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Sfairatishe5 months ago7

Please don't. Temple is the only end game mechanic that makes me feel like i'm making progress while playing. Towers was like that. You building your setup for a limited number of uses. It's like building a home only to sleep in it for 3 days, and then you are broke again.

I want temple to be more complicated, deterministic and hard mechanic, that rewards you for knowing what to do, and staying like a part of your character progress.

Wind_Best_14405 months ago7

There is no way they leave snaking in the game, good chance they either remove locks or they put a hard cap onto how many rooms can link together.

They tried to change lock mid league but people freaked out because it was mid league. So its obvious that locks are either getting nerfed or removed completely.

Either that or locks will be something you get after completing the vaal temple atlas and you spec into it.

Fract_L5 months ago5

How about no? Building a temple is a great endgame option. Balancing temple rewards is all that needs to happen

FunkyBoil5 months ago2

They'll just nerf the drop rate into the ground. Theres already precedence for them doing this tons of times lol

i_like_fish_decks5 months ago1

I mean they left sanctum alone as a money printer for a long time...

yourmomophobe5 months ago1

Make it 15 just to keep people who like it happier but, yeah. There should definitely be a negotiation between building more and pathing straight to Atziri and it would still give plenty of availability for something to do outside of maps.

Tweedlol5 months ago1

You can’t build shit in 10 runs 😂

Maintenance is lock dropping. Only required additional work if you get a long string of bad luck. Once you’re done, you’re done. Play time = paid time.

Is it too strong? Yea. But it also didn’t break anything it just adjusted values of everything…. Which isn’t even bad for new players as they can get a single omen of erasure, annul or whittle and get money. Or farm omen of light or breach, or expedition… same as always.

You can’t even just waltz in to somenes finished temple and farm it. The gear required is there, and to be the giga farming with 5 leechers? You need top tier gear. Bosses are 150m hp. Rares the same if not more EHP due to their 10 modifiers.

Is it going to stay this OP? No. But it didn’t ruin the league. Newbies can even join a temple and get levels and 10div or more if their host gets a good drop.

Everyone is benefitting. Yall just have your sights on high end items and think “ong 4 mirrors?! That’s insane! Stupid fucking temple!!!” That item would be a single mirror, equally far outside of your reach in another season. Nothing new is off limits or longer to farm - they just have a bigger price tag. A price tag where “minimum wage” also went up.

And honestly? This much currency in game gave far more people access to crafting. Myself included. Before I was a giga farmer with 5 leeches I craft my stuff to be able to even farm the completed temple. Then I farmed to add 1 leecher, then 2 then 3 then 4 and now 5. I still haven’t completed my gear with 22k raw div and a mirror. And for my absurd play time due to medical, that’s saying something. 🙈 granted there aren’t many upgrades left. A +2 comet prism, strong rolling a sanct on my currently perfectly rolled staff which only benefits after a lock shows a positive result. My atziri chest is only 950es.. my amulet is good but not perfect. I’m sorry but played time is still important with or without a temple. The insane farmers who print mirrors do something every league to be ahead any way. It’s how it goes.

I made a few people rich yesterday off a mirror drop. 300d to all 4 and a tribal mask to gamble. One guy hit double socket +4 with crit. Add another 500d. These are casual guild mates and found in game friends where 300d is huge. And they got it because of my temple time. Seems like a genuinely overall beneficial league mechanic to me, for one league.

But it absolutely should not stay like this permanently otherwise all new content has to keep up or be better and THAT would be potential problems for the true issue; especially if access to farming this much raw currency was easier to access in some new content.

taleofbor5 months ago1

I would assume they will reduce the max rooms to probably 40 or so

Matt_AsA_Hatter5 months ago1

I expect locks gone and the whole temple to reset with every run.

LionPuzzleheaded39855 months ago1

Honestly the way it is now isn’t that bad. I could see making the drops less at the high end, sure.

If they lock it behind tablets and lower the loot at the absolute high end it will be fine.

Anything more completely kills it.