Looking For Help: Melee Frost Lich

I've been watching a good deal of content, but no one seems to have this one laid out.

I'm looking for guideance as to how I could build a Frost-based Melee Lich. My ideal would be something like WoW's Frost DK. (Fast attacks, cold, plague damage, mass synergies).

Primarily I'm looking for a heavy armored, cold-damage build (not Ice Sorcereress - already leveled one).

I would like to spread and freeze quickly. Maybe using poison damage if elemental doesn't work.

Some ideas as to how to spread debuffs (whether through talent tree or ability-gems greatly appreciated).

I'm using: Frost Breach Slim Mace right now as a weapon.

Here are some thoughts I'm playing around with thus far:

  • Frost/Cold Thematics
  • Melee Cold Damage
  • Two-Handed or Dual-Weilding
  • Heavy Armor
  • Armor also applies to Elemental Damage
  • Bind Spectre (Minion)

- Not really interested in minions doing all the work. (As I've seen Frost Skeleton builds). Not really looking for an army build.

+ I really like the disease and infection idea.

Any general tools/sites, weapon/armor suggestions, ideas on skill gems or other concept directions would be greatly appreciated. I'm flexible with the idea. Please and Thank You.

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tanjonaJulien•8 months ago•1

Ascend to abyssal lich you can use curse and boost your melee dps.woth minion then you can achieve mace/scepter

F8_zZ•7 months ago•1

Dual Mjolnir with Call of the Brotherhood? Maybe Quarterstaff with Ice Strike?

You could run Chaotic Freeze support on your damaging skill to give freeze building to all chaos damage, which Lich has easy access to. That way you can run some poison or Contagion.

Not sure if you can chain Herald of Plague with Herald of Ice the way you can with Plague/Blood but it's an idea for spreading.

JamesHui0522•7 months ago•1

I have a build I believe is kinda similar to what you are after.

Im using the Reap spell granted from the reaper staff, it is basically a physical spell that looks and feels like an attack, and it looks like you are swinging a massive scythe, but it only scales off of spell damage. People usually build this with blood mage, but the spell itself already has 14% base crit so I figure I can use other ascendancies.

Normally people build it around just purely physical damage and increasing clear with the trampletoe overkill damage, but I made it with archmage, and cast on crit with frost wall and ice nova, but Trampletoe is still kinda needed. Basically you just swing the scythe at the enemies, and every two swing or so you autocast a bunch of frostwalls and shatters them, making a massive ice explosion. It is quite fun, but survivability is a bit tricky.

This is my POE ninja. There are some good gear, but I think many of them are overkill and there is probably a better solution. Also Im using Varashta because one of the Djinns will swing a sword at the enemy when you cast a spell, but I tried it and its not that good. https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/VitricaEdge-6216/character/Calipse

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I missed stacking poisons to the moon, so I made a Splinter of Lorrata build.
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I missed stacking poisons to the moon, so I made a Splinter of Lorrata build.

https://preview.redd.it/hyitimd4s3jg1.png?width=884&format=png&auto=webp&s=24b3c886c950bf3bd1cc8a80ebd7d9eb19fde0f3 Hello, Exiles. I've always been a poison enjoyer in Path of Exile, but have not played a decent poison build in PoE2 yet. A lot of this is because I just don't like how poisons work in PoE2, which is entirely personal and nitpicky, but here we are. I miss being able to stack poisons like in PoE, so I wanted a build that could do it. Lorrata seemed like the way to go, despite its apparently recent nerf with the addition of dealing no elemental damage. I think this weapon is super cool, it looks dope and its function really scratches an itch. Plus, on aesthetic theme with the build, it lets me use one of my favorite and vastly underutilized skills, *Wind Serpent's Fury*. So I get to poison old-school style, use a dope weapon, and a dope skill? Sick. *For what it's worth, I've invested very, very little time, currency, and effort into this build. It's pretty slapdash at this time, my tree and gear aren't spectacular, defenses are real bad, but* [here's the PoB via Maxroll](https://maxroll.gg/poe2/pob/big0k0l2)*; I will also be going over all pertinent passives, gems and or gear pieces.* This is ***not*** a one button build. It's an all-the-buttons build. This is also more like a proof of concept than a guide of any kind. The **TL;DR** of the build is as follows: * Clear using *Gas Grenades* and *Entangle*, along with **three** different explosions from support gems. * On bosses or exceptionally tanky rares, use *High Velocity Rounds* against an enemy with fully broken armour. * This applies a debuff called *Riven Armour (see below)* which essentially acts as "Impale, but it's a durational debuff." * This gives Splinter of Lorrata enough base damage to apply decent sized poisons, and lots of them at once using *Spearfield*. * Generate Frenzy Charges automatically in order to use the knockback from *Wind Serpent's Fury* to shove (smaller) bosses into your waiting spears behind them. [The \\"Splinter of Lorrata build\\" is actually a crossbow build you guys, sorry.](https://preview.redd.it/v0unmcgsx3jg1.png?width=560&format=png&auto=webp&s=1851f17b42c1263aff5fb1ae4cadbeb7d621fa5c) # ASCENDENCY: **Deadeye.** There are a few ascendancies that could work with this build, but I chose Deadeye for a few reasons, and I think they make it a very strong contender for best option. **Called Shots:** Crucial for our Frenzy Charge generation, utilizing a level 7 (for mana's sake) Sniper's Mark. This passive automates mark application and is otherwise very valuable as well. **Proximity Specialization-Point Blank:** We have a few other passives that increase our damage in close proximity, this 20% more helps make the *High Velocity Rounds* damage even higher, for more poisons. **Tailwind:** The faster you can spam *Spearfield*, the more poisons you can stack. Movespeed and Evasion are also great. Easy take, even though I'm not currently taking advantage of Deflection. **Mirage Deadeye:** Free Mirage Archer! Extra *Gas Grenades* with Corrosion to make sure Boss Armour stays fully broken, as well as helping with clear. Can be utilized in other ways (can use Spear skills too). If you don't care about Tailwind or Mirage Deadeye, you can always get an extra projectile on your Gas Grenade. Or two different options for more Frenzy Charge generation. # SKILLS: There are three "sets" of skills at use in this build. We have clear skills, boss-killer skills, and utility skills. **Clear Skills:** * *Gas Grenade:* Important Supports are *Corrosion*, *Bursting Plague*, and *Armour Explosion*. * *Entangle:* Important Supports are *Poison Spores* and *Blind II.* This gem can be low level to save mana. (NOTE: Assign this skill to be used with your Spear, not Crossbow, to take advantage of *Dance with Death Keystone's* increased Skill Speed (cast rate.) * *Herald of Plague:* GGG said "I don't think we *should* support this gem" so just put like, Clarity in there or something. *How it works:* Fire a Gas Grenade and send an Entangle or two towards the enemies. Entangle will slow everything by \~50%, blind them (which increases damage against them via passives), poison them (for even more damage against them and some slow via Maim), apply your Mark to someone (for frenzy charges, shock), and apply *Poison Pustules* to everything*.* Gas Grenade fuels Entangle's *Poison Pustules* and applies *Bursting Plague* before it strips armour incredibly fast with Corrosion and causes *Armour Explosions.* This results in packs melting very fast as each enemy explodes *three times* from Plague, Pustules and Armour pop. If a rare persists, shoot them once or twice with *High Velocity Rounds*. [An example of what clear looks like. Recorded in a T4 at level 70.](https://i.redd.it/ly12p1e054jg1.gif) **Boss-Killer Skills:** * *High Velocity Rounds:* Important Supports are all heavy damage focused. *Brutality III, Heft, Close Combat, Deliberation, Phys Mastery*, etc. * *Spearfield:* Important Supports are *Concentrated Area, Deadly Poison II, Rearm II, Rapid Attacks II.* * *Sniper's Mark (via Called Shots):* Important Supports are *Charged Mark, Mark for Death.* * *Wind Serpent's Fury:* Important Supports are *Punch Through, Knockback, Perpetual Charge.* *How it works:* We open with our Clear Skills, breaking their armour and blinding them. The boss's armour should break very fast thanks to our Gas Grenade (and Mirage's as well). Entangle's tiny little base 10% crit chance, thanks to how often it hits, is enough to reliably proc the Frenzy Charge from consuming Sniper's Mark (which is automatically reapplied thanks to Called Shots). 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Also recorded in T4 at level 70.](https://i.redd.it/kvrc59m1a4jg1.gif) **Utility Skills:** * *Disengage:* Super useful for getting out of tight situations. Doesn't do shit for damage due to Lorrata's low numbers, but can maim, cull, and save your buns. * *Wind Dancer:* More evasion and a little knockback to save you again sometimes. * *Charge Regulation:* 24% increased skill speed while we have a Frenzy Charge, which is most of the time. (NOTE: You can use *Charge Profusion II* in your Sniper's Mark for a 15% chance to generate an a random charge, which can give you increased evasion or critical chance, neither of which are useless.) # GEAR: As previously mentioned, I haven't put much effort into gearing this character yet. There are definitely a few things to go after on rares and a couple points about uniques, but aside from that, gear isn't really nailed down. 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