Is it still possible to use rednotes outside china without verifying account by submitting an id? Like to able to post and comment?

Who knows? Things change and everyone’s situation is different. If rednote asks you for id verification, you have your personal answer.

Yea they allow foreign users now. Use passports with NFC chip, take selfie and you will be validated.

Why would you still want to use this garbage when they already showed their true colors.

This is how I’ve been using RedNote since January of last year. You do have the ability to post, comment, like, collect, etc. But you are also more likely to be banned or restricted for unknown ridiculous reasons. I myself was temporarily banned for a few months for some unknown reason, before having my account reinstated with an apology. As an unverified user you are the first one to get the axe, and you are probably under extra scrutiny (stay FAR away from anything remotely political or critical of China).

For some people like me, the tradeoff is still worth it. For others the tradeoff is not worth it.

That's hard to say for sure. I'm in China, and all I know is that I registered on Xiaohongshu years ago and used it without verifying my identity until recently when I placed too many orders and was finally required to complete real-name authentication. This is related to Xiaohongshu's risk control strategy, such as your behavior and your online environment, etc.