This voice note a guy sent after one date is sparking a massive debate over consent vs. coercion.

This guy is talking about relationship like a sales pitch. Run . Fast and far .

This how I imagine someone from LinkedIn initiates sex

Please stop awarding points for “honesty” in these comments.

 He’s trying to manipulate someone he barely knows and who has been CLEAR that she does not want to have sex on the second freaking date, which is entirely rational. It’s also rational to not want to have someone you barely know come over to your place; at that point you might not want them to even know where you live yet. 

If she said she wasn’t sure and he was truly interested in getting to know her better, that would be the end of the matter; but a minute-plus voicemail trying to lay our why he just neeeeeeds to have sex in order to build romance and see if he wants to see her again is a manipulation attempt.

I think he should’ve said,

“Hey, I’ve been thinking about our conversation during our last visit. You said you weren’t sure about intimacy. I respect that.

From where I’m sitting though, that’s a deal breaker. I didn’t want to ghost or disengage without touching base and just letting you know what happened.

I really enjoyed our time together and good luck in the future.”

The therapy-speak from the voice note guy is sending me 💀

Ew

He's an ass but I'm just glad he was honest about exactly who he is, especially through voice-mail rather than waiting for her to be alone with him in a room.

A huge number of men try to get the woman into a room knowing she's unsure and then going "please, please, please" to change her mind while she's alone. Or they verbally abuse her, name calling, putting her down. He doesn't put her down but does tell her this is the only use she will be to him. Which is a good wakeup call if you had an ounce of doubt about his goodness.

She's not stuck in a room alone with him and can safely block him. At worst it's an unpleasant conversation.

“For my own sake…”

Is this Jonah Hill