How does Ingenuity compare to Headhunter for poisonburst pathfinder?

I’ve been playing with headhunter for a couple hundred hours now and it’s very _very_ powerful, but also very unstable. Especially in the temple. Or on an overran abyssal map. Or anywhere being ripped across the screen into a pack of monsters. Obviously shroud/shade walker is the bane of my existence and quite honestly, it’s also hard to know how strong your build really is when you’re constantly huffed up on the glue of 20+ rare stolen powers.

I’m about to pull down my jewelries to get more rarity and I saw a couple level 100 players on poe2 ninja using ingenuity over headhunter. Is this a lateral step or a downgrade so bad I shouldn’t even consider it?

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Mass_Defect5 months ago3

Temple is where headhunter shines the most. Imo you aren’t going to find something better for Temple.

For mapping - if your rings are contributing something significant than ingenuity will give a decent boost. But I think most can agree that they drastically over-nerfed ingenuity.

sobercrossfitter5 months ago2

I’ve tried both extensively- more damage on HH but more consistent with Ing w/ higher rarity. I still go back to HH for temple though

Sr5DelSol5 months ago2

Huffed up on the glue of 20+ rare stolen powers 🫡

Fabianx97_G25 months ago1

is all down to how good you are dealing with shadewalker buff, killed me so many times that I prefer ingenuity, and I dont do temple so I dont need the headhunter

raziel_r5 months ago1

Headhunter gives a huge power spike early on, if you're playing a meta build and max out your other gear, you will be strong enough to do with it and i swap over to 32/32 ingenuity once i had enough power and 2 rarity affix lines for more IIR with kalandra's touch. you have to turn HH off alot anyway to wake sleep golems in temple and off shadewalker vs abyss void.

Shadilinn5 months ago1

Is your pathfinder critical hit based? You could use coward's Legacy, enables lots of low life especially pain attunement.

Exact_Wish52415 months ago1

I believe it works for mana stacking purposes

variable1145 months ago1

My temple is very far from juiced so I can't speak with certainty but evasion and deflection both around 75% has made me feel immortal everywhere except big boss fights. Are you near that? More asking for my possible future than anything since I know it doesn't solve your question.

N1ghthawk0075 months ago1

At the very least if u play a character on ritualist and get 3 gg rings ingen will boost the fuck out of those especially if they have rarity but hh just for most content feels the best unless you’re doing panicle boss farming that’s not the breach boss then ingen could be better

Frosty_Debate_46045 months ago1

I like ingenuity for bossing if you don’t have a ton of perks from HH in maps. But if your goal is screen clear, HH is the choice because of all the buffs you get. The only annoyance is the shadewalker thing that jets you into enemies that may already be in the windup of an attack (primary way I die nowadays).

But yeah, maps and temple is mass clear, so HH is supreme, if you were doing short form content with big bosses like arbiter or maybe even temple of chaos, ing might win, especially if you have goated rings.

This league I tried to buy one OP ring and then use the mirror ring to double up on the goodness.. man o man the flat damage and rarity felt so good that I only needed to spurge on one good ring

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