i helped him go from a few thousand views to 100k+. now he hates what we make.

i help a guy with his content, and lately i feel weird taking any credit for the numbers.

he makes beautiful short videos, properly shot, with a lot of thought behind the lighting and the edit. those usually get a few thousand views. his work needs the reach, so i suggested trying some of what's already working. copying trending concepts and formats, adapting them to his style, using trending audio.

those started clearing 100k, some way past that. it kept happening, and eventually ā€œlet’s try a fewā€ turned into most of what we make.

when we first started working together, we'd spend our conversations talking about shots, where the light would be, how long to hold on something. now we're mostly talking about whether a trend is still alive and if we can get ours posted in time.

he told me he feels like he's losing a little piece of his soul for views. i didnt really know what to say because i'm the one who encouraged it, and the reason i gave him still holds up: more people are seeing his work.

except i'm starting to wonder what that's worth if the work they're seeing is stuff he doesn't want to make.

i don't think the trend videos are beneath him or that being proud of something means it deserves 100k views. but we went into this thinking the trend stuff would bring enough attention to support the work he actually cared about. instead, every time we plan one of his original ideas, we're comparing it to what following a trend could do, and it gets harder to justify spending the time.

for people who manage accounts for a living, have you actually made that balance work? i'm interested in how you decide what gets made when the stuff your client loves consistently gets a fraction of the views. we said we'd keep doing both, but that hasn't meant much in practice.

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MrMigOfficial•20 days ago•17

They need fo figure out what the end goal is. Its not about what they want, its about what gets the job done.

Highlad•19 days ago•4

As a videographer, I get where he's coming from. It entirely depends on the purpose of it. If this is a creative outlet for him then make it that. Spend the energy on creativity.

If it's a job then you need to grow an audience, and that 'visual creativity' takes a back seat.

If he wants both then he's going to need a team, so that he can focus on what he loves (cinematography) and someone else can take the reigns on content direction.

Beautiful-Newt8179•19 days ago•3

Not entirely comparable, but Iā€˜m building my own author account - and there’s a very similar balance there, because Iā€˜m writing in a genre that’s not trending.

Thing is, I could work out how to write a trending book and how to sell it. But it wouldn’t make me happy. Now, it’s a struggle to even find readers at all. But every time I do…it’s so worth it. And those readers are mostly loving my book.

So what’s the plan? Long-term success. Itā€˜ll probably take 10-15 books before I have a chance to live from this. Right now I don’t even break even (not even close). Even moderate success is easily 5-10 years away.

But that’s where Iā€˜m heading. Figuring out how to reach readers in my niche, improving my craft and understanding NOT what the masses of readers want, but what MY readers want - both in the books I write and the marketing I do.

Is this hard some days? Absolutely. But to me, it’s worth it. And you can absolutely optimize beyond ā€œwhat’s trendingā€ and focus on ā€œwhat’s reaching YOUR audienceā€œ. You just have to be very aware that it’s a long road.

BINAYAUDIO•19 days ago•2

You have to be clear with your goals. For example in your whole post you don't mention what he is trying to achieve. Is he a videographer trying to get more clients to hire him to direct short movies? That's the thing you have to figure out.

Being able to scale views like you did is an amazing skill but it needs a purpose.

If your client is trying to be an influence that's powerful. If your client is trying to connect with people who would hire him for his experience and you're showing none of that and making his profile seen by a mainstream audience rather than his niche then that's a disservice.
So it really depends what he is trying to achieve and that's the first thing to determine to create the content with that goal in mind.

(I'm not able to make 100k videos)

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